Comments on: The New Rap Language Vol.4: Senescence Edition http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/ Even when I was wrong, I got my point across. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:58:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: hook http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-147904 hook Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:02:47 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-147904 man give me all these "old-man" albums over any of the new shit coming out nowadays. I'm so serious. I am now used to checking for rappers that even the heads at Amoeba don't remember (got a blank stare last week when I asked about the new A.G. & O.C.) and I fucking prefer it that way. It's almost unnecessary to look for the next hot sensation when these veteran artists are still putting it down so hard. When somebody complains about how a record doesn't really "break any new ground," that's usually my cue to tune out. A lot of my favorite artists (dudes like the Beatnuts and the whole D.I.T.C.) never try to break any new ground; they just keep perfecting the same classic formula. i think that's the approach that pays off in the long run anyway, since the listeners most concerned with novelty and experimentation are those least likely to pay money for music (word to the clipse) man give me all these “old-man” albums over any of the new shit coming out nowadays. I’m so serious. I am now used to checking for rappers that even the heads at Amoeba don’t remember (got a blank stare last week when I asked about the new A.G. & O.C.) and I fucking prefer it that way. It’s almost unnecessary to look for the next hot sensation when these veteran artists are still putting it down so hard. When somebody complains about how a record doesn’t really “break any new ground,” that’s usually my cue to tune out. A lot of my favorite artists (dudes like the Beatnuts and the whole D.I.T.C.) never try to break any new ground; they just keep perfecting the same classic formula. i think that’s the approach that pays off in the long run anyway, since the listeners most concerned with novelty and experimentation are those least likely to pay money for music (word to the clipse)

]]> By: Thomas http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-147031 Thomas Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:27:17 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-147031 "Thomas, you mean to tell me that Redman chorus doesn’t make you want to lift the whole gym or drive 100 mile per hour?" that emotional impact is what makes it the best chorus of the bunch. but lyrically, it could be much better. if i was constructing my chorus around a violent barrage of "cock back spit it out"s, i'd finish it up with something more sick than "lyrical bang bang on the track, man down". that shit might impress IF he was spitting it in a freestyle battle rap. but enough criticism. as i said, it's still a decent track. “Thomas, you mean to tell me that Redman chorus doesn’t make you want to lift the whole gym or drive 100 mile per hour?”

that emotional impact is what makes it the best chorus of the bunch. but lyrically, it could be much better. if i was constructing my chorus around a violent barrage of “cock back spit it out”s, i’d finish it up with something more sick than “lyrical bang bang on the track, man down”. that shit might impress IF he was spitting it in a freestyle battle rap.

but enough criticism. as i said, it’s still a decent track.

]]> By: hl http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146981 hl Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:50:08 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146981 Yeah Victor, I think its pretty cool that my favorite MC's are still getting it. Even if they can't compete on a commercial level, the fan base these guys from the 90's have built over the years allow them to continue to do what they were always good at. As fickle and disloyal as hiphop fans can be, we're being far kinder to guys from the 90's than we were to artists from the 80's. The question is what's old man rap in 2009? Kanye West, The Game, Lil Wayne, and Jay Electronica are all damn near 30 or past that. A few years ago that would have been considered ancient, but no one looks at thise guys as old man rap. Yeah Victor, I think its pretty cool that my favorite MC’s are still getting it. Even if they can’t compete on a commercial level, the fan base these guys from the 90′s have built over the years allow them to continue to do what they were always good at. As fickle and disloyal as hiphop fans can be, we’re being far kinder to guys from the 90′s than we were to artists from the 80′s.

The question is what’s old man rap in 2009? Kanye West, The Game, Lil Wayne, and Jay Electronica are all damn near 30 or past that. A few years ago that would have been considered ancient, but no one looks at thise guys as old man rap.

]]> By: Victor http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146829 Victor Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:37:33 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146829 Yeah, i wouldnt say the Redman hook is week just uninspired. However, when shouted out it does have that hype appeal. Old Man Rap is defo on the up this year and Hip Hop is good for it as plenty of younger emcees have come with the goods as well. Yeah, i wouldnt say the Redman hook is week just uninspired. However, when shouted out it does have that hype appeal.

Old Man Rap is defo on the up this year and Hip Hop is good for it as plenty of younger emcees have come with the goods as well.

]]> By: hl http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146809 hl Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:55:42 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146809 Thomas, you mean to tell me that Redman chorus doesn't make you want to lift the whole gym or drive 100 mile per hour? I thought that hook was much better on record than it looks on paper. Thomas, you mean to tell me that Redman chorus doesn’t make you want to lift the whole gym or drive 100 mile per hour? I thought that hook was much better on record than it looks on paper.

]]> By: Thomas http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146743 Thomas Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:34:43 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146743 i probably expect too much. at the end of the day, i'm just glad that these guys are still going strong. and thankful that Primo is still as prolific as he is. gotta love that last line on the Camp Lo track: "they said i was lucky the first time. pfft. guess my luck's back." i probably expect too much. at the end of the day, i’m just glad that these guys are still going strong. and thankful that Primo is still as prolific as he is.

gotta love that last line on the Camp Lo track: “they said i was lucky the first time. pfft. guess my luck’s back.”

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146729 Passion of the Weiss Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:32:48 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146729 That's a fair criticism, though I'd argue the Primo songs don't need hooks because the scratched vocal hooks have always been his thing. That’s a fair criticism, though I’d argue the Primo songs don’t need hooks because the scratched vocal hooks have always been his thing.

]]> By: Thomas http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146727 Thomas Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:28:24 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/10/22/the-new-rap-language-vol4-senescence-edition/#comment-146727 all these guys are incredibly skilled and entertaining emcees, but i wish they could write a decent hook. they're great on the verses, but all these tracks are plagued with a weak-ass chorus bringing it all down a notch. 'cock back, spit it out (x 6) lyrical bang bang on the track, man down'? it's tragically weak, and that's the best that's on offer here. not that i don't enjoy these tracks. they're decent songs. i can't help wanting better, though. all these guys are incredibly skilled and entertaining emcees, but i wish they could write a decent hook.

they’re great on the verses, but all these tracks are plagued with a weak-ass chorus bringing it all down a notch.

‘cock back, spit it out (x 6)
lyrical bang bang on the track, man down’?

it’s tragically weak, and that’s the best that’s on offer here.

not that i don’t enjoy these tracks. they’re decent songs. i can’t help wanting better, though.

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