Comments on: The Next Spot: The Diplomats–Diplomatic Immunity http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/ I'm a Bartender, I Do Great Things. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:02:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Rossdewees http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-145159 Rossdewees Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:04:50 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-145159 As far as Whats really Good? No rapper in NYC (eight million stories) who came up in the new century can say that they were not influenced by the dips. They were not only the most confident sucessful, talent crew really doing it, they captured the heart of a neighborhood in the city, sending out a sound to all of the cyphers in the streets and partys. So when You think about dips, understand that your talking about a movement, and really the most streets movement. Un kasa is the perfect example. Thats the first song on this album and the epitome of what im talking about. Purple city Byrdgang? You could see a 18 yr. old emcee dreaming of being in the position of affiliation with this hoodstar mentality. Dipset was taking smack to a whole new level. SAntana is dropped on the album, the streets new Juelz, but then this kid rips a sentimental soul sample that is at the time one of those cutting edge (maybe a 4/4?) hot tempo hyhat drums with the heavy bass that seperates dip production from others. Juelz has a nice flow, that cant be denied. His lyrics, to a teenager, sound like the depictions of a realistic portrayal of the mind of a monster. You see people in NYC, you meet men and ladies in streets anywhere that you imagine a what; dipcity, the music is at once addictive and pro-cathartic. This is the passion of people coming from a reality where only poverty and exploitation exist, they are aiming to inspire and control a neighborhood, city, state, country and hopefully internation; eurogang, dipskate. But like the Twin towers, props to the writer, the dips fell like the towers from some taliban shit. Juelz really was like the taliban, but really the same old gang is over, but they all still doing they dipset thing. Its all marketing as far as my perspective, and it makes the music compelling. The things they say are As far as Whats really Good? No rapper in NYC (eight million stories) who came up in the new century can say that they were not influenced by the dips. They were not only the most confident sucessful, talent crew really doing it, they captured the heart of a neighborhood in the city, sending out a sound to all of the cyphers in the streets and partys. So when You think about dips, understand that your talking about a movement, and really the most streets movement. Un kasa is the perfect example. Thats the first song on this album and the epitome of what im talking about. Purple city Byrdgang? You could see a 18 yr. old emcee dreaming of being in the position of affiliation with this hoodstar mentality. Dipset was taking smack to a whole new level. SAntana is dropped on the album, the streets new Juelz, but then this kid rips a sentimental soul sample that is at the time one of those cutting edge (maybe a 4/4?) hot tempo hyhat drums with the heavy bass that seperates dip production from others. Juelz has a nice flow, that cant be denied. His lyrics, to a teenager, sound like the depictions of a realistic portrayal of the mind of a monster. You see people in NYC, you meet men and ladies in streets anywhere that you imagine a what; dipcity, the music is at once addictive and pro-cathartic. This is the passion of people coming from a reality where only poverty and exploitation exist, they are aiming to inspire and control a neighborhood, city, state, country and hopefully internation; eurogang, dipskate. But like the Twin towers, props to the writer, the dips fell like the towers from some taliban shit. Juelz really was like the taliban, but really the same old gang is over, but they all still doing they dipset thing. Its all marketing as far as my perspective, and it makes the music compelling. The things they say are

]]> By: Jimmy http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-137411 Jimmy Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:39:47 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-137411 No matter what you say, these dudes did it and did it well. They showed crazy promise, and after hearing and double cd that went platinum, you thought they could go nowhere but up. Then I heard Part 2. Sounded like a throwaway mixtape. Beginning of the end for me. No matter what you say, these dudes did it and did it well. They showed crazy promise, and after hearing and double cd that went platinum, you thought they could go nowhere but up. Then I heard Part 2. Sounded like a throwaway mixtape. Beginning of the end for me.

]]> By: Jason http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128976 Jason Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:56:01 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128976 Doc- I checked out the Byron review of this album and by golly if the comments/response to it didn't prove his point exactly. Dipset is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It kinda reminds me of the response I used to to get in my suburban detroit mall casually ripping ICP in front of juggalos. Doc- I checked out the Byron review of this album and by golly if the comments/response to it didn’t prove his point exactly. Dipset is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. It kinda reminds me of the response I used to to get in my suburban detroit mall casually ripping ICP in front of juggalos.

]]> By: Alex Ludovico http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128588 Alex Ludovico Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:53:44 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128588 Yes, yes, &YES! I knew someone would get around to this record! Now that I'm 23, this record reminds me of being 16. The Diplomats owned my high school. And I went to school in the midwest. Me and 2 buddies skipped class the day this record dropped to be at Circuit City when it opened. I remember thinking Juelz was seriously better than Cam (ridiculous) and that Hell Rell was gonna own shit when he got out (even MORE ridiculous). This is probably the record that started my rap career. I used to own the aforementioned Air Force Ones, along with a pink 4xl tall tee and pink Yankees fitted. I wanted to be Cam. This made realize that I shouldnt pick on my little brother for being obsessed with Soulja Boy, because I was him. Difference being that Cam could actually spit. I think im gonna pull out that pink Yankee, turn this up, and remember debaring about JR Writer being a top 5 MC. oh to be 16 again..... Yes, yes, &YES! I knew someone would get around to this record! Now that I’m 23, this record reminds me of being 16. The Diplomats owned my high school. And I went to school in the midwest. Me and 2 buddies skipped class the day this record dropped to be at Circuit City when it opened. I remember thinking Juelz was seriously better than Cam (ridiculous) and that Hell Rell was gonna own shit when he got out (even MORE ridiculous). This is probably the record that started my rap career. I used to own the aforementioned Air Force Ones, along with a pink 4xl tall tee and pink Yankees fitted. I wanted to be Cam. This made realize that I shouldnt pick on my little brother for being obsessed with Soulja Boy, because I was him. Difference being that Cam could actually spit. I think im gonna pull out that pink Yankee, turn this up, and remember debaring about JR Writer being a top 5 MC. oh to be 16 again…..

]]> By: Sach http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128475 Sach Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:53:06 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128475 Juelz and Jimmy were awful but they worked great in a group context, sort of like Banks and Yayo actually. Juelz and Jimmy were awful but they worked great in a group context, sort of like Banks and Yayo actually.

]]> By: hook http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128473 hook Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:44:19 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128473 Oh, and cosign that Byron Crawford review. He should really review more albums. Oh, and cosign that Byron Crawford review. He should really review more albums.

]]> By: hook http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128472 hook Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:40:40 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128472 I gotta admit I haven't heard this, but unless Juelz really stepped his game up incredibly from Come Home With Me I can't imagine him being as good as you say. The reason I could never get down with the Diplomats is cause Cam is the only one worth listening to. Juelz is on some alphabet shit, and Jones is just fucking awful. Santana's gotten a little better in the last few years (his verse on Carter III was pretty nice)but I remember hearing his first solo joint (which came out after Diplomatic Immunity) and not being able to take it. So I'm skeptical. Plus the Heatmakerz get old real fast. But maybe I'll cop this used if I see it for four bucks or something. I gotta admit I haven’t heard this, but unless Juelz really stepped his game up incredibly from Come Home With Me I can’t imagine him being as good as you say. The reason I could never get down with the Diplomats is cause Cam is the only one worth listening to. Juelz is on some alphabet shit, and Jones is just fucking awful. Santana’s gotten a little better in the last few years (his verse on Carter III was pretty nice)but I remember hearing his first solo joint (which came out after Diplomatic Immunity) and not being able to take it. So I’m skeptical. Plus the Heatmakerz get old real fast. But maybe I’ll cop this used if I see it for four bucks or something.

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128452 Passion of the Weiss Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:10:16 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128452 Didn't Bloomberg make Freeky the director of the dept. of sanitation? Didn’t Bloomberg make Freeky the director of the dept. of sanitation?

]]> By: Disco Vietnam http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128451 Disco Vietnam Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:07:22 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128451 As someone from New York Dipset did not run New York. As someone from New York Dipset did not run New York.

]]> By: DocZeus http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128446 DocZeus Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:47:14 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/08/20/the-next-spot-the-diplomats-diplomatic-immunity/#comment-128446 I still think Byron Crawford's review of this album is the definitive review of Dipset of our time. http://www.byroncrawford.com/2004/04/album_review_7.html In fact, I'm kind of fan of all his reviews from this era of Dipset. His review of Jim Jones' On My Way To Church is probably the single greatest music review of the last ten years. I still think Byron Crawford’s review of this album is the definitive review of Dipset of our time.

http://www.byroncrawford.com/2004/04/album_review_7.html

In fact, I’m kind of fan of all his reviews from this era of Dipset. His review of Jim Jones’ On My Way To Church is probably the single greatest music review of the last ten years.

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