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	<title>Comments on: Sach O: DOOM – Born like This</title>
	<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/</link>
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		<title>By: Jon L</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88835</link>
		<author>Jon L</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm actually in the middle of listening to the album right now.  My first impressions were that it was solid but not great, but I think that's due in part to the guest productions being frontloaded.  Jake One's work comes off like thinner versions of Viktor Vaughn tracks.  I was also a little disappointed to see Angelz again, though the drums sound slightly different, the bass and strings are smoothed out a little bit, and Ghost may or may not have re-recorded his verse at a lower energy level.

But yeah, there's definitely good stuff here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually in the middle of listening to the album right now.  My first impressions were that it was solid but not great, but I think that&#8217;s due in part to the guest productions being frontloaded.  Jake One&#8217;s work comes off like thinner versions of Viktor Vaughn tracks.  I was also a little disappointed to see Angelz again, though the drums sound slightly different, the bass and strings are smoothed out a little bit, and Ghost may or may not have re-recorded his verse at a lower energy level.</p>
<p>But yeah, there&#8217;s definitely good stuff here.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas martin</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88665</link>
		<author>douglas martin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"cellz" is the sound of the earth splitting in half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;cellz&#8221; is the sound of the earth splitting in half.</p>
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		<title>By: Maren</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88520</link>
		<author>Maren</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88520</guid>
		<description>On point review- thanks!

Also, not to beat the Dangerdoom comments to death, but "Benzi Box" is one of my favorite doom tracks.  Then again, it's also one of the only tracks on the album that doesn't have an ATHF skit in it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On point review- thanks!</p>
<p>Also, not to beat the Dangerdoom comments to death, but &#8220;Benzi Box&#8221; is one of my favorite doom tracks.  Then again, it&#8217;s also one of the only tracks on the album that doesn&#8217;t have an ATHF skit in it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DUKES</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88503</link>
		<author>DUKES</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88503</guid>
		<description>This review was perfectly timed to reach my eyes 5 minutes after I deleted nearly the whole album for the SECOND time. Meaning I downloaded it, listened to it, deleted it, decided to give it a second chance...but then did the same thing all over again.

This album is more unfocused and haphazard than could be predicted, and my expectations were low. The recycled beat for Raekwon to rhyme on (how many times have we heard that beat before?), the Dilla Lightworks beat that Kweli used years ago...cmon man. 

Im pretty sure this is some new material to hold people over until the next show, when some other cat shows up to perform while DOOM continues to sleep on his mom's couch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This review was perfectly timed to reach my eyes 5 minutes after I deleted nearly the whole album for the SECOND time. Meaning I downloaded it, listened to it, deleted it, decided to give it a second chance&#8230;but then did the same thing all over again.</p>
<p>This album is more unfocused and haphazard than could be predicted, and my expectations were low. The recycled beat for Raekwon to rhyme on (how many times have we heard that beat before?), the Dilla Lightworks beat that Kweli used years ago&#8230;cmon man. </p>
<p>Im pretty sure this is some new material to hold people over until the next show, when some other cat shows up to perform while DOOM continues to sleep on his mom&#8217;s couch.</p>
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		<title>By: Sach</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88400</link>
		<author>Sach</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88400</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the props y'all.

I wouldn't rank the album up in the man's top 3 (Top 5 even) but to be fair, I think very few rappers who've been as remarkably consistent over the past 20 years. Scarface is the only guy who comes to mind actually (hmm Scarface vs Metal Face? Probably wouldn't work but it'd be a fun one off track)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the props y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t rank the album up in the man&#8217;s top 3 (Top 5 even) but to be fair, I think very few rappers who&#8217;ve been as remarkably consistent over the past 20 years. Scarface is the only guy who comes to mind actually (hmm Scarface vs Metal Face? Probably wouldn&#8217;t work but it&#8217;d be a fun one off track)</p>
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		<title>By: Jay (d)eff Kay</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88384</link>
		<author>Jay (d)eff Kay</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88384</guid>
		<description>"but would anyone who reads this blog regularly have the balls to say that “nutmeg” does the same thing?"

I actually think many people would, especially since Ghost seems pretty candid about the fact that his earlier work experimented with some pure fly sounding surreal, stream-of-consciousness shit. I'd also like to add that writing fly sounding stream of conscious stuff isn't all that easy, and not something to be scoffed at completely.

As for tracks like 'that's that', I'll admit it does seem a bit more stream of conscious than his previous work. Calling it nonsense is a bit harsh though. I actually remember people saying the same about tons of other past tracks in his discography, so it might again be an issue about how much time we've spent with the record.

Like the first time I heard: 
"Cornish hens switchin positions, auditionin' mortitions
saw it in a vision, ignorin prison
Ignoramuses enlist and sound dumb
Found em drowned in cows dung, crowns flung"

I was like dude's just blazing crazy off the top of his dome, but a few seconds later I was like this could easily be a war-related thread - it could be abt those who've enlisting in the army, could be abt street kids getting involved in a seemingly glamourous life of crime, or it could be abt anyone who's decided to battle Doom in a cypher. It all ends very badly though I know for sure.

I dunno. Guessing if there's a narrative under all that gibberish is half the fun.

P.S I interpret "DOOM rock grandma like the kumbaya" as a rebuking of our youth-obsessed culture and a call for you to get in on with some senior citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but would anyone who reads this blog regularly have the balls to say that “nutmeg” does the same thing?&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually think many people would, especially since Ghost seems pretty candid about the fact that his earlier work experimented with some pure fly sounding surreal, stream-of-consciousness shit. I&#8217;d also like to add that writing fly sounding stream of conscious stuff isn&#8217;t all that easy, and not something to be scoffed at completely.</p>
<p>As for tracks like &#8216;that&#8217;s that&#8217;, I&#8217;ll admit it does seem a bit more stream of conscious than his previous work. Calling it nonsense is a bit harsh though. I actually remember people saying the same about tons of other past tracks in his discography, so it might again be an issue about how much time we&#8217;ve spent with the record.</p>
<p>Like the first time I heard:<br />
&#8220;Cornish hens switchin positions, auditionin&#8217; mortitions<br />
saw it in a vision, ignorin prison<br />
Ignoramuses enlist and sound dumb<br />
Found em drowned in cows dung, crowns flung&#8221;</p>
<p>I was like dude&#8217;s just blazing crazy off the top of his dome, but a few seconds later I was like this could easily be a war-related thread - it could be abt those who&#8217;ve enlisting in the army, could be abt street kids getting involved in a seemingly glamourous life of crime, or it could be abt anyone who&#8217;s decided to battle Doom in a cypher. It all ends very badly though I know for sure.</p>
<p>I dunno. Guessing if there&#8217;s a narrative under all that gibberish is half the fun.</p>
<p>P.S I interpret &#8220;DOOM rock grandma like the kumbaya&#8221; as a rebuking of our youth-obsessed culture and a call for you to get in on with some senior citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Passion of the Weiss Blog Archive Sach O: DOOM Born like This &#124; No more smoking!</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88381</link>
		<author>Passion of the Weiss Blog Archive Sach O: DOOM Born like This &#124; No more smoking!</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88381</guid>
		<description>[...] Another decent blogger placed an observative post today on Passion of the Weiss Blog Archive Sach O: DOOM Born like ThisHere&#8217;s a quick excerptDaniel Dumile albums aren&#8217;t supposed to be comforting; they&#8217;re supposed to be disturbing, awkward, and a mindfuck to all but the most dedicated, blunt-smoking, mind-warped, boom-bap rap fans. Maybe it was the corny Adult Swim tie in (we &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Another decent blogger placed an observative post today on Passion of the Weiss Blog Archive Sach O: DOOM Born like ThisHere&#8217;s a quick excerptDaniel Dumile albums aren&#8217;t supposed to be comforting; they&#8217;re supposed to be disturbing, awkward, and a mindfuck to all but the most dedicated, blunt-smoking, mind-warped, boom-bap rap fans. Maybe it was the corny Adult Swim tie in (we &#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: douglas martin</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88347</link>
		<author>douglas martin</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88347</guid>
		<description>jay: thank you for both playing devil's advocate and acknowledging that you were knitpicking. i think the semi-negative reviews of the record try too hard to pretend they weren't knitpicking. 

aaron: in my opinion, "microwave mayo" is right behind "gazillion ear" as the best "pure spit" song on the record. in "more rhymin'," i think it's about as introspective as doom's gotten over the course of his career, but you have to listen closely and read between the lines. 

one of the the other complaints about this record is that people say the stream-of-consciousness lyrics sound like he's just stringing words together, but would anyone who reads this blog regularly have the balls to say that "nutmeg" does the same thing? no, because it doesn't. neither do the lyrics here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jay: thank you for both playing devil&#8217;s advocate and acknowledging that you were knitpicking. i think the semi-negative reviews of the record try too hard to pretend they weren&#8217;t knitpicking. </p>
<p>aaron: in my opinion, &#8220;microwave mayo&#8221; is right behind &#8220;gazillion ear&#8221; as the best &#8220;pure spit&#8221; song on the record. in &#8220;more rhymin&#8217;,&#8221; i think it&#8217;s about as introspective as doom&#8217;s gotten over the course of his career, but you have to listen closely and read between the lines. </p>
<p>one of the the other complaints about this record is that people say the stream-of-consciousness lyrics sound like he&#8217;s just stringing words together, but would anyone who reads this blog regularly have the balls to say that &#8220;nutmeg&#8221; does the same thing? no, because it doesn&#8217;t. neither do the lyrics here.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88346</link>
		<author>Max</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review Sach..i sorta dug this one too 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/15/doom-born-like-this-review</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review Sach..i sorta dug this one too<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/15/doom-born-like-this-review" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/15/doom-born-like-this-review</a></p>
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		<title>By: hungrych</title>
		<link>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88345</link>
		<author>hungrych</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://passionweiss.com/2009/03/31/sach-o-doom-%e2%80%93-born-like-this/#comment-88345</guid>
		<description>Which tie-in are you listening to? The first half of Dangerdoom is pure gold imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which tie-in are you listening to? The first half of Dangerdoom is pure gold imo.</p>
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