Comments on: Douglas Martin’s Dirty Shoes: Sects in the City and Musical Cosmopolitanism http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/ I'm a Bartender, I Do Great Things. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:51:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Fresh Cherries from Yakima » Blog Archive » on repeat: triumph. http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-192109 Fresh Cherries from Yakima » Blog Archive » on repeat: triumph. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:12:26 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-192109 [...] few years, we’ve been seeing a crossover being applied that is more artistic than monetary. “musical cosmopolitanism”, if you will. a lot of hullabaloo has been made over the marri...this review as all i need to [...] […] few years, we’ve been seeing a crossover being applied that is more artistic than monetary. “musical cosmopolitanism”, if you will. a lot of hullabaloo has been made over the marri…this review as all i need to […]

]]> By: Fresh Cherries from Yakima » Blog Archive » believe the hype: drake. http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-92992 Fresh Cherries from Yakima » Blog Archive » believe the hype: drake. Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:47:12 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-92992 [...] course, given the cosmopolitanism of music nowadays, of course most artists are going to try to make things a little hipster-friendly if they can. in [...] […] course, given the cosmopolitanism of music nowadays, of course most artists are going to try to make things a little hipster-friendly if they can. in […]

]]> By: douglas martin http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-71414 douglas martin Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:45:21 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-71414 nick: this is a great example. i went to the record store like two months ago and the clerk was bumping immortal technique. it turns out that he mostly listens to hardcore punk (but loves liars and thinks vivian girls are pretty okay), and i asked about (surprise!) fucked up, and he told me he liked them better live. thanks for sharing, bro! alex: poppycock! all of the growling punks i've met with pentagrams tattooed on their chests have all been complete teddy bears. ;) nick: this is a great example. i went to the record store like two months ago and the clerk was bumping immortal technique. it turns out that he mostly listens to hardcore punk (but loves liars and thinks vivian girls are pretty okay), and i asked about (surprise!) fucked up, and he told me he liked them better live.

thanks for sharing, bro!

alex: poppycock! all of the growling punks i’ve met with pentagrams tattooed on their chests have all been complete teddy bears. ;)

]]> By: Alex Ludovico http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70986 Alex Ludovico Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:10:33 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70986 Wow. I was literally getting ready to write a post just like this. You've put my own upbringing into words very well sir. Just take out "The Warning" and put in "2 Dope Boyz" and its my life. And skinny jeans are cool. Always have been, always will be. And as a rapper, I've heard Fucked Up. Pink Eye scares me tho. http://www.myspace.com/alexludovico Wow.
I was literally getting ready to write a post just like this.
You’ve put my own upbringing into words very well sir.
Just take out “The Warning” and put in “2 Dope Boyz” and its my life.
And skinny jeans are cool. Always have been, always will be.
And as a rapper, I’ve heard Fucked Up.
Pink Eye scares me tho.

http://www.myspace.com/alexludovico

]]> By: nick sweep http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70559 nick sweep Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:47:51 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70559 just for kicks, try workin in a record store these days. some of the combinations of stuff being bought blows my mind. people seem much less scared to listen outside of their chosen niche, at least compared to say, when i was in high school (11 years ago now). i for one, think this can only be a good thing! the "lines" are going, going... almost gone, and good riddance! just for kicks, try workin in a record store these days. some of the combinations of stuff being bought blows my mind. people seem much less scared to listen outside of their chosen niche, at least compared to say, when i was in high school (11 years ago now). i for one, think this can only be a good thing! the “lines” are going, going… almost gone, and good riddance!

]]> By: douglas martin http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70444 douglas martin Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:57:16 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70444 tray: key emphasis on your "whenever we get there" part. the sad and obvious fact is that racism will always exist. always. scott: you're awesome. thanks for the tip. tray: key emphasis on your “whenever we get there” part. the sad and obvious fact is that racism will always exist. always.

scott: you’re awesome. thanks for the tip.

]]> By: Great Scott http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70384 Great Scott Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:07:24 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70384 Dude, all curious stares aside, bump the Tegan and Sara with pride! It'll help you get into lesbian bars you never knew existed before. And I've got a secret for you- some of these lesbians...they're just pretend. Dude, all curious stares aside, bump the Tegan and Sara with pride! It’ll help you get into lesbian bars you never knew existed before. And I’ve got a secret for you- some of these lesbians…they’re just pretend.

]]> By: Tray http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70365 Tray Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:55:36 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70365 Yeah, suffice it to say that, while I'm all for your right to listen to Tegan and Sara without being persecuted (so long as your producing hustle never gets big enough to get them in the studio with any of my favorite rappers), I don't really look forward to the happy day when nerdy white boys can rap about their girl problems at lunch without being made fun of, or when all the rappers feel free to put out rock records, emo records, or worse yet, rock-rap fusion records. Maybe the kids these days don't care about genre constraints, but (though I'm only 23 myself) I don't think anyone besides T-Pain has ever accused the kids these days of having an abundance of good taste. As for racial utopia, the sad perverse fact of the matter is that, just as wars lead to good fiction, most of the great rap ever recorded is the direct or indirect product of racial dystopia, so while I'm obviously not crossing my fingers for North Philly's murder rate to stay up so we can continue to get the likes of a Beans or Freeway, I do tend to feel that one of the few unhappy consequences of a less structurally unequal world and less segregated culture (if we ever get there) will be worse music. Obviously a price more than worth paying, but still. Yeah, suffice it to say that, while I’m all for your right to listen to Tegan and Sara without being persecuted (so long as your producing hustle never gets big enough to get them in the studio with any of my favorite rappers), I don’t really look forward to the happy day when nerdy white boys can rap about their girl problems at lunch without being made fun of, or when all the rappers feel free to put out rock records, emo records, or worse yet, rock-rap fusion records. Maybe the kids these days don’t care about genre constraints, but (though I’m only 23 myself) I don’t think anyone besides T-Pain has ever accused the kids these days of having an abundance of good taste. As for racial utopia, the sad perverse fact of the matter is that, just as wars lead to good fiction, most of the great rap ever recorded is the direct or indirect product of racial dystopia, so while I’m obviously not crossing my fingers for North Philly’s murder rate to stay up so we can continue to get the likes of a Beans or Freeway, I do tend to feel that one of the few unhappy consequences of a less structurally unequal world and less segregated culture (if we ever get there) will be worse music. Obviously a price more than worth paying, but still.

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70343 Passion of the Weiss Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:48:35 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70343 It's not the idea of "Prom Queen" that's so bad, it's that Wayne only appears to have listened to P.O.D., Staind, and Tommy Lee's Methods of Mayhem. Also, I continue thinking that "her fancy underwear" refers to a Mormon marital quirk. It’s not the idea of “Prom Queen” that’s so bad, it’s that Wayne only appears to have listened to P.O.D., Staind, and Tommy Lee’s Methods of Mayhem. Also, I continue thinking that “her fancy underwear” refers to a Mormon marital quirk.

]]> By: douglas martin http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70309 douglas martin Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:27:01 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/02/05/douglas-martins-dirty-shoes-sects-in-the-city-and-musical-cosmopolitanism/#comment-70309 nasty noz: perhaps i'm the wrong authority on this sort of thing, but <i>808s</i> is quickly becoming my favorite kanye record to date. nasty noz: perhaps i’m the wrong authority on this sort of thing, but 808s is quickly becoming my favorite kanye record to date.

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