Comments on: LA Weekly-Up With People Under the Stairs http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/ Even when I was wrong, I got my point across. Thu, 24 May 2012 16:32:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57737 Passion of the Weiss Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:44:35 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57737 The "swag" comment was tongue-in-cheek. Can we all agree to never use the phrase, "Team Passion" again? The “swag” comment was tongue-in-cheek.

Can we all agree to never use the phrase, “Team Passion” again?

]]> By: Chef Rae http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57728 Chef Rae Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:55:19 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57728 can everyone stop knocking Tray? Dude presents a different point of view, which is sorely needed, since "team passion" took over the comments section. That being said. Tray, stop being such a stupid douche. Ill article, Jeff. can everyone stop knocking Tray? Dude presents a different point of view, which is sorely needed, since “team passion” took over the comments section.

That being said. Tray, stop being such a stupid douche.

Ill article, Jeff.

]]> By: Barry http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57717 Barry Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:21:39 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57717 You'd have to remember it for me to explain it to you Tray. You’d have to remember it for me to explain it to you Tray.

]]> By: Tray http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57714 Tray Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:17:54 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57714 You'll have to elaborate on how the Blueprint changed everything, but I don't agree that these guys lack swag, so long as you define swag in a sufficiently polymorphous way. There's a certain confidence there. They hardly even sound like indieground rappers, they sound like guys who, 12, 13 years ago would be considered halfway-mainstream, like Digable or Souls of Mischief or whatever. Now Evidence, he lacks swag. You’ll have to elaborate on how the Blueprint changed everything, but I don’t agree that these guys lack swag, so long as you define swag in a sufficiently polymorphous way. There’s a certain confidence there. They hardly even sound like indieground rappers, they sound like guys who, 12, 13 years ago would be considered halfway-mainstream, like Digable or Souls of Mischief or whatever. Now Evidence, he lacks swag.

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57695 Passion of the Weiss Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:04:38 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57695 See, I disagree here. 50 was very much a critical darling, from mainstream to underground. (I know you remember the early tapes and think everyone paying attention did). Everyone liked Get Rich or Die Tryin. I thought it was a 3 star record, but I was pretty much alone. He broke in 2003. This trend started shortly thereafter. This isn't downplaying Blueprint. I agree with the assertion, just think it's a bit reductive to say that it was only one album that sparked things. Either way, there's nothing wrong with liking Boosie and Aesop Rock. I wish more people would realize that. See, I disagree here. 50 was very much a critical darling, from mainstream to underground. (I know you remember the early tapes and think everyone paying attention did). Everyone liked Get Rich or Die Tryin. I thought it was a 3 star record, but I was pretty much alone. He broke in 2003. This trend started shortly thereafter.

This isn’t downplaying Blueprint. I agree with the assertion, just think it’s a bit reductive to say that it was only one album that sparked things. Either way, there’s nothing wrong with liking Boosie and Aesop Rock. I wish more people would realize that.

]]> By: Sach http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57652 Sach Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:37:14 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57652 Eminem had underground cred from the get-go though, whenever someone would diss him, fans would trip-over each other to wave copies of his Soundbombing 2 to naysayers' faces. And 50 was never a critical darling, he got press because he sold a lot of records but the urb crowd was never comfortable with his stuff. The Blueprint forced backpackers to double back and study the whole Jay-Z catalogue, that major shift in focus for the suposedly enlightened. Suddenly it was cool to be a thug emcee if you rapped over soul loops. Reminds me of how everyone turned mafioso after Cuban Linx. Eminem had underground cred from the get-go though, whenever someone would diss him, fans would trip-over each other to wave copies of his Soundbombing 2 to naysayers’ faces. And 50 was never a critical darling, he got press because he sold a lot of records but the urb crowd was never comfortable with his stuff.

The Blueprint forced backpackers to double back and study the whole Jay-Z catalogue, that major shift in focus for the suposedly enlightened. Suddenly it was cool to be a thug emcee if you rapped over soul loops. Reminds me of how everyone turned mafioso after Cuban Linx.

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57615 Passion of the Weiss Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:19:30 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57615 You could argue that Eminem and 50 Cent are equally valid in that discussion, but Blueprint inarguably re-drew the lines. You could argue that Eminem and 50 Cent are equally valid in that discussion, but Blueprint inarguably re-drew the lines.

]]> By: Barry http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57609 Barry Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:07:40 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/09/la-weekly-up-with-people-under-the-stairs/#comment-57609 A lot of what Noz says is true, but it ignores what really caused it: The Blueprint. A lot of what Noz says is true, but it ignores what really caused it: The Blueprint.

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