Comments on: Japanese Cartoon: Bigger Than the Beatles (Sach O) http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/ Because I'm naughty by nature, not cause I hate 'cha Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:18:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Lisa http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-143061 Lisa Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:37:07 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-143061 I think I went to school with that girl. I think I went to school with that girl.

]]> By: Cafe http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-58230 Cafe Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:32:16 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-58230 Music is music. All this talk about "ironic appreciation" and "whites wishing they were cooler" is blatant over-analysis of the situation. Not everyone wants to listen to, I dunno, Radiohead all the time. A terrible Kevin Rudolf f. Lil Wayne song can just be a simple guilty pleasure similar to a health nut eating donuts once a week. Veiled racism?! Seriously?! Music is music.

All this talk about “ironic appreciation” and “whites wishing they were cooler” is blatant over-analysis of the situation. Not everyone wants to listen to, I dunno, Radiohead all the time. A terrible Kevin Rudolf f. Lil Wayne song can just be a simple guilty pleasure similar to a health nut eating donuts once a week.

Veiled racism?! Seriously?!

]]> By: douglas martin http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57581 douglas martin Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:00:44 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57581 soderberg: i understand what you're saying, and i can see how people who like crystal castles could find something to love in southern rap (which, to be clear, wasn't particularly the kind of rap i was referring to as "dimwitted"), but what i'm saying is that if one can listen to something really virtuosic as far as rock goes, if you're listening to some super-simple rap song with one-syllable rhyme schemes and casio presets, it comes across to outisders as ironic appreciation. soderberg: i understand what you’re saying, and i can see how people who like crystal castles could find something to love in southern rap (which, to be clear, wasn’t particularly the kind of rap i was referring to as “dimwitted”), but what i’m saying is that if one can listen to something really virtuosic as far as rock goes, if you’re listening to some super-simple rap song with one-syllable rhyme schemes and casio presets, it comes across to outisders as ironic appreciation.

]]> By: Tray http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57497 Tray Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:27:20 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57497 Granted I've been away from college for a month, but that's not what I recall our frat douches and sororo-sluts looking like. Those folks look more like independent state school trash. And everyone's heard the Paper Route mixtape, and I think I know where you're going, and I have to say, I think Diplo's taken a lot of unfair knocks for, you know, colonializing these bammers' music or whatever. Obviously they didn't record a ton of new material for the tape, so he remixed their best songs from a year ago and exposed them to a wider audience. I think the remixes are just fine. But of course everyone wants to be a cultural critic and subject the venture to some close reading. Whatever. Granted I’ve been away from college for a month, but that’s not what I recall our frat douches and sororo-sluts looking like. Those folks look more like independent state school trash. And everyone’s heard the Paper Route mixtape, and I think I know where you’re going, and I have to say, I think Diplo’s taken a lot of unfair knocks for, you know, colonializing these bammers’ music or whatever. Obviously they didn’t record a ton of new material for the tape, so he remixed their best songs from a year ago and exposed them to a wider audience. I think the remixes are just fine. But of course everyone wants to be a cultural critic and subject the venture to some close reading. Whatever.

]]> By: brandonsoderberg http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57477 brandonsoderberg Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:18:25 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57477 One thing though. That picture of frat douche and sororo-sluts undercuts your hipster attacks...there are a million pictures of skinny Animal Collective fans looking just as absurd One thing though. That picture of frat douche and sororo-sluts undercuts your hipster attacks…there are a million pictures of skinny Animal Collective fans looking just as absurd

]]> By: Curt http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57414 Curt Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:32:29 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57414 i think this may be relevant to the convo: any1 heard diplo's mixtape w/ paper route recordz? i think this may be relevant to the convo: any1 heard diplo’s mixtape w/ paper route recordz?

]]> By: Curt http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57411 Curt Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:28:24 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57411 This post is hilarious! great job! Sach you're on point, if this shit was taken seriously and considered "indie" hipsters would choke on their sparks. This post is hilarious! great job!

Sach you’re on point, if this shit was taken seriously and considered “indie” hipsters would choke on their sparks.

]]> By: AaronM http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57408 AaronM Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:16:50 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57408 Parappa the Rapper is awesome. That's all I have to say. "Kick, punch, it's all in the mind!" Parappa the Rapper is awesome. That’s all I have to say.
“Kick, punch, it’s all in the mind!”

]]> By: Tray http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57399 Tray Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:30:05 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57399 Hmm... part veiled racism, part awkward class/race differences. Whites' attitudes to rap are complicated. I was driving my little sister somewhere a couple weeks ago, and she was making me listen to that terrible Kevin Rudolf f. Lil Wayne song. So Mr. Rudolf goes, after Wayne's verse, "I wish I could be as cool as you/and I wish I could say the things you do." And my sister says, "aww, he wants to be as cool as Wayne! But he can't because he's white!" And I feel like a lot of white appreciation of rap is like that (which is probably part of why I'm so dismissive of white underground rappers). But on the other hand, implicit in this "they're cooler than us" notion is, in some cases, a "they're cooler than us because they're ignorant and fun and stupid." Hmm… part veiled racism, part awkward class/race differences. Whites’ attitudes to rap are complicated. I was driving my little sister somewhere a couple weeks ago, and she was making me listen to that terrible Kevin Rudolf f. Lil Wayne song. So Mr. Rudolf goes, after Wayne’s verse, “I wish I could be as cool as you/and I wish I could say the things you do.” And my sister says, “aww, he wants to be as cool as Wayne! But he can’t because he’s white!” And I feel like a lot of white appreciation of rap is like that (which is probably part of why I’m so dismissive of white underground rappers). But on the other hand, implicit in this “they’re cooler than us” notion is, in some cases, a “they’re cooler than us because they’re ignorant and fun and stupid.”

]]> By: Sach http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57389 Sach Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:37:16 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2009/01/08/japanese-cartoon-bigger-than-the-beatles-sach-o/#comment-57389 Brandon: Damn, I didn't even remember that Shop Boys post until you mentioned it. Or the Shop Boys for that matter. I'm sure Lupe actually thinks this is cool though, didn't he want to reunite Pink Floyd for a track? Daniel: keeping in mind the whole post's a joke, (Lupe came out and admited he doesn't even sing on these though I don't know if I'm supposed to believe him...), hipsters love when they're aknowledged, not misrepresented: Kanye+PB&J=all good in their book but if Lupe were to do his best Oasis immitation and the media were to call it indie there'd be hell to pay. Brandon: Damn, I didn’t even remember that Shop Boys post until you mentioned it. Or the Shop Boys for that matter. I’m sure Lupe actually thinks this is cool though, didn’t he want to reunite Pink Floyd for a track?

Daniel: keeping in mind the whole post’s a joke, (Lupe came out and admited he doesn’t even sing on these though I don’t know if I’m supposed to believe him…), hipsters love when they’re aknowledged, not misrepresented: Kanye+PB&J=all good in their book but if Lupe were to do his best Oasis immitation and the media were to call it indie there’d be hell to pay.

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