NY Magazine Vulture Blog-Soulja Boy On How One Superman’s a Ho
If pressed to put a number on it, I’d wager that 73 percent of this blog’s readership views Soulja Boy as an avatar for the decline of Western Civ. As Maura rightfully pointed out yesterday, the kid’s got a penchant for inadverterantly sticking his diamond-encrusted Yums into his grill (I don’t want to know that means). And yes, roughly half his singles can charitably be described as migraine rap. But I’ve got to confess a certain partiality for the guy.* How much of it stems from my article on him earning inclusion in this year’s Da Capo series, I’m not sure. Truthfully, I’d probably defend Claus Von Bulow had he helped me get into the anthology.
I don’t exactly bump Soulja Boy regularly, but I enjoy “Crank That” for what it is and find “Turn My Swag On,” disturbingly catchy–though attempts to turn on my own swag have been lamentably dim. But I won’t argue with So Many Shrimp’s assertion that DeAndre Way attempts to make “the hardest, most nonconforming, most singular pop-rap around.” Of course, he doesn’t always succeed, but he’s at least original, which is more than I can say about turkeys like Rick Ross and Ron Browz.
Don’t get me wrong, Soulja Boy isn’t the performance artist of his generation and no sane person could ever mention him in the same breath as Andy Kauffman,** yet there’s something inherently likable to him. In person, he’s much savvier than you’d expect and openly admits his idolatry of Dave Chappelle. I mean, if you don’t think the above video for “Turn My Swag On” was trying to be funny, than you probably voted for Bob Barr.
Either way, I’m willing to cut the dude some slack, considering 18 months ago, he was a 16-year old living in his bedroom in Batesville, Mississippi–a town with just 7,000 people, a third of whom live below the poverty line. Without any help, he became a grassroots sensation, leveraged You Tube better than any other artist and plus, my 10-year old cousin, Taylor, likes him. Yes, she can probably crank that better than me. The interview, can be found at New York Magazine’s Vulture blog, which you should be reading if you aren’t already. B-sides after the jump.
* This does not mean I want to find out what passing it to Arab means.
*MTV call me. I can do better. Promise. I’ll even take back those nasty things I said about Carson Daly back in ‘01. Okay, that’s a lie.
NY Magazine Vulture Blog: Soulja Boy on How One Superman’s a Ho
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MP3: Soulja Boy-”Turn My Swag On”
Several years ago, critics prematurely declared the music video a dead art form. But clearly, they played a large role in your success. How important are videos to you?
Music videos play an important role in every person’s career. I shoot videos for every single that comes out, but I’m about putting brand new videos for the fans on You Tube. Whether it’s me and my homeboys at the mall shopping and messing with some girls, or something I’ll just sit at home and write, like a Dave Chappelle skit. It lets the fans know more of your personality and who you are. It also helps your name get out there.
In the history of popular dances where you would rank the Soulja Boy dance? Would you say it’s bigger than the Roger Rabbit? What about the Macarena?
I think it’s bigger than all of them right now because it’s the newest one. It’s on the tip everyone’s brain. If you said, ‘name a dance, right now,’ you’d probably say pick it, just because it’s the newest one
Did you make the beat for “Turn my Swag On”
No, but that became a popular video on the Internet. I was just doing something for You Tube, a joke skit like you’d see on Dave Chappelle and I was blowing my nose into dollar bills and thinking what the most ridiculous rich-person behavior would be like. I thought of that
So you’ve never really blown your nose into a pile of dollar bills
Do you ever feel like you’re being misinterpreted, that you’re just trying to be funny and people take you dead serious.
I get that, but a lot of it’s supposed to be a joke.
Earlier this year, there was a lot of controversy, with Ice-T and Gza calling you out. Did you feel like you were being scapegoated and if so, why?
Really, I don’t even care. Man, I just think that I was a hot topic. I am a hot topic. My name came out of a lot of peoples’ mouth. Basically, Ice-T, Gza and Lebron James were just more publicly known than anyone else. I bet you were like, ‘Soulja Boy, that’s some weird shit, what the fuck’s up with that kid?’ Basically, those people are famous, so when Soulja Boy comes out their mouth, it’s mayhem. It is what it is, I like it, keep saying my name.
And then there was obviously the comment where you shouted out the slave masters. I know you said you were being sarcastic and it was blown out of proportion. Do you want to clarify yourself?
Basically man, it was a bad joke at the wrong place at the wrong time. I apologize for it. I wasn’t feeling the interview with dude anyway.
Did you feel that Toure was trying to be condescending?
Yeah, I felt like I was being set up. Out of all the interviews I’ve done in my career, I’ve never been put in a position where I felt so awkward. I felt that it was the wrong move and afterwards I felt like dude was trying to hurt my career. But it is what it is. I apologize for it, it was a case of the wrong place at the wrong time.
What’s the craziest thing that’s happened to you since you become famous?
When I first got my first million dollar check. I didn’t know what to do with it,
What did you do with it?
I found out about taxes–that wasn’t fun. But I bought a house in
It’s Thanksgiving next week, what are you thankful for?
My career, all the fans that I have and for my family sticking with me in this whole strange process of becoming a celebrity.
What does your family think of your success?
They support me. I don’t think they fully understand exactly how I did it. I basically blew up in the bedroom of my house and they can’t understand that.
Were your parents into technology at all?
Nah, my dad gave me the computer. He was like, ‘here take it.’ He didn’t know how to work it, and then I basically sat him down and explained everything and then a month later, he saw me on TV. They’re as surprised as anyone.
What do you want to accomplish in the future?
I want a movie. I want my video game to be like Gears of War 2. I don’t want it to be corny and people will be like, ‘Soulja Boy, damn that kid made a corny Soulja Boy video game. I want it to be on the same level as Halo.
You thinking about acting
I’m waiting on the right script. The agency I’m with, they pitch me scripts all the time. But the last one they sent me, they wanted me to fly over to Belgium and shoot this movie about the Tuskeegee airmen and do some serious part where I’d cry on the battlefield. I’m more into comedies. I’d want to do something like Superbad.
Stumble It!
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 am
“So you’ve never really blown your nose into a pile of dollar bills.
Nah, who the hell would do that, that’s ridiculous.”
Wait, it really happened in the Rich Nigga Shit videos. He took some money out of his wallet, blew his nose in it, and threw it in the trashcan. Was it fake money? Also, while I voted for Obama (something I’m regretting more and more, as the plan seems to be to prove his toughness by hiring a bunch of generals and hawks to run his foreign policy/turning Afghanistan into his personal Vietnam while pushing through insane spending at home), there’s nothing wrong with voting for Barr. He may or may not be a bit of a bigot, I have no idea, but libertarianism is a respectable enough ideology that I don’t think it even matters. I wouldn’t want him to be the President of course, but people who voted for him don’t either, they’re just casting a protest vote for a party they like.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:07 am
soulja boy just gave me a fantastic idea for my fledgling dirty wii game company.
behold: supersoak that wii
the general idea will be to use the wii remote to create real moves (dirty ones, of course) for all of deandre’s nonsensical lyrics. quick, what would “da rubberband man” look like? “dat robocop?” (no kanye) “bathing apes?” the most imaginative moves will receive the most points. one to four players. batteries not included.
this might be even more popular than mike tyson’s donkey punch out.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:15 am
Ayo, Tray: “He may or may not be a bit of a bigot, I have no idea, but libertarianism is a respectable enough ideology that I don’t think it even matters”
It really isn’t, you know.
Also, nice interview. I basically agree with everything you said about Soulja Boy, but he seems like a pretty reasonable guy there.
But:
“I had this song called “Doo Doo Head.” It was this stupid comedic song” - what, as opposed to the super-serious songs in his catalogue?
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:22 am
I started paying attention to SB when he and Ice were going at it on that video blog battle.
Kid really killed Ice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr8B2dnIvR4
J
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:29 am
“Either way, I’m willing to cut the dude some slack, considering 18 months ago, he was a 16-year old living in his bedroom in Batesville, Mississippi–a town with just 7,000 people, a third of whom live below the poverty line.”
You know, Shyheim was like fourteen when he wrote “AKA The Rugged Child” which is my favorite Wu-Tang Killa Bee album of all-time. It’s quite possible to be a teenager and not retarded.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:36 am
although i’m not much of a fan of his music, this is a smart kid. my favorite part? “i found out about taxes. that wasn’t fun.”
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Tray: I’m with Jonathan. This Slate article pretty much ethers libertarianism as a tenable philosophy.
http://www.slate.com/id/2202489/
Christine: You’re one step away from Super Mario Bang Bus Bros.
J-Mass: Agreed. I can honestly say I like more Soulja Boy songs that Ice-T songs.
Doc: I won’t argue that Shyheim is much better at rapping than Soulja Boy. Obviously. But there is something to be said about the fact that Shyheim was backed by the entire clan at their peak in 94 and still couldn’t blow up. All Soulja Boy had was a computer. He might not boast an intellectual intelligence but he’s definitely got smarts.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I guess I’m of the opinion that the things you choose to release as art is a greater reflection of who you are than what you say. Like I’m sure Soulja Boy isn’t actually retarded but his music is so he only really brings it on himself. I don’t buy into the excuse that because he’s a teenager it’s somehow ok. Nas was 17 when he wrote “Live at the BBQ.” Although, I get what he’s trying to do in some of this is Dave Chappelle like satire but I don’t think he’s talented enough to pull it off which is why it comes across as some Stephin Fetchit shit.
As for Shyheim not blowing up. One of the great mysteries of our time. Although, to be fair, he was competing with some of the greatest rap albums ever released in 1994 and while “AKA The Rugged Child” is really, really good. It’s not on THAT level.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Yeah, without even clicking I know what you’re talking about, that’s the dumbest article Slate’s ever published. The Weisberg shit where he says, “see, we tried libertarianism, and it didn’t work, we’re in a crisis,” except… we never tried anything close to libertarianism, we deregulated a few things, mostly under Clinton, and most economists, even liberal folk like Krugman, will admit to you that repeal of Glass-Steagall, etc. is not at fault. Yeah, the article itself has been ethered* far more successfully than it ethers libertarianism (not a theory I subscribe to but a respectable one nevertheless). Weisberg’s a nice writer and commentator on Bush but not really a respectable policy thinker. If you want some intelligent liberal policy writing on the nets, start with Yglesias or Ezra Klein.
* http://www.reason.com/blog/show/129561.html
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Oh and see also http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/libertarianism_is_dead_vive_le.php
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Interesting articles with some valid and not-so-valid points. I still ride with Weisberg. I give charity points to people with similar nomenclature. And yeah, agree, Ezra Klein is very good.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Even if it were remotely possible to institute pure libertarianism on any level much like communism (or any of these fantastic, utopian ideologies for that matter), libertarianism would inevitably fail because it relies on the idea that humans act rationally and in the best interest of all. Which is an insane notion since 200,000 years of human history have basically pointed out that’s completely and unequivocally untrue.
I mean human beings as a species willingly commit suicide, an act that is profoundly irrational, so asking them to behave in a manner that is a benefit to the greater society on any level beyond the personal (and at best, the familial) is beyond asinine regardless of ideology. If we aren’t willing to preserve ourselves, why would we preserve others?
The problem is your trying to force a perfect system on an imperfect world. Even if you could somehow manage to institute the system even for a little while, it would inevitably collapse because the world is full of free-loaders, liars and other scam artists. It’s going to inevitably occur to somebody that they can get by and to their own advantage by not holding up their end of the bargain just fine and when that happens, the whole house of cards collapses. I feel all ideologues need to take a basic course on human behavior and world history before they make any decisions.
If the lesson you learned from the sub-prime mortgage crisis was that we need LESS regulation because we weren’t in a truly libertarian system than you learned absolutely nothing.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Why Doc, I didn’t say that was the lesson I learned from the crisis. We obviously need some regulation, like, honesty in lending regulation, regulating the rating agencies who said these mortgages were sound regulation, maybe some regulation of leverage, so on and so forth. And I don’t think there are any libertarians who are such wack jobs that they’d disagree. The question is more, what type of regulation works, and Weisberg doesn’t talk about that of course because he’s not expert enough to know. When I hear that the magic bullet is decoupling brick-and-mortar banks and investment banks, or putting caps on executives’ salary, that’s when I get extremely skeptical, because none of that crap has anything to do with why we’re in a crisis.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Well, yeah. I agree that total regulation isn’t exactly the best medicine, either because anti-regulators aren’t completely insane when they suggest that overzealous regulation can stagnate growth. We need to find balance, of course. There’s moderation in everything. I’m not near enough of qualified to say what that is but basic logic suggests that less regulation is obviously the wrong way to go. Smart and balanced regulation combined with a certain amount of flexibility in the rules seems like a perfectly.
I just have a problem with dogmatic ideologies when basic human behavior is far too complicated to be predicted with any such accuracy over time.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm
“disturbingly catchy–though attempts to turn on my own swag have been lamentably dim.”
LOL.
BTW. Looking forward to seeing your views on U-N-I. I’m still waiting on my copy of “Remind Me in 3 Days” to arrive in the mail so I can give it a proper, objective listen or three.