Comments on: The Beat Generation: The J Dilla Effect http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/ Even when I was wrong, I got my point across. Thu, 24 May 2012 05:49:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Zilla Rocca and The Roots pay tribute to hip hop producer J Dilla | The Key http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-551216 Zilla Rocca and The Roots pay tribute to hip hop producer J Dilla | The Key Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:10:46 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-551216 [...] better understand J Dilla’s legacy, take a few moments and read this article written by Rocca called “The Beat Generation: The J Dilla Effect“—which Rocca wrote [...] [...] better understand J Dilla’s legacy, take a few moments and read this article written by Rocca called “The Beat Generation: The J Dilla Effect“—which Rocca wrote [...]

]]> By: B http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-41768 B Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:14:47 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-41768 yeh...u put the finger on it...i couldnt work out how Dillas beats were the best beats, the joints with Guilty and fNd and the like the best...yet so simple and *almost* clumsy. Nowadayz a good exaple of this....requires a flow only someone like Madlib could fathom. yeh…u put the finger on it…i couldnt work out how Dillas beats were the best beats, the joints with Guilty and fNd and the like the best…yet so simple and *almost* clumsy. Nowadayz a good exaple of this….requires a flow only someone like Madlib could fathom.

]]> By: Vincent http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9434 Vincent Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:34:11 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9434 Common definitely needed Dilla in 2000 and he made LWFC a much better album. But that "Welcome to Detroit" CD is still in my large box of sh*tty CD's I will never listen to again. I was SEVERELY disappointed with that one. Common definitely needed Dilla in 2000 and he made LWFC a much better album. But that “Welcome to Detroit” CD is still in my large box of sh*tty CD’s I will never listen to again. I was SEVERELY disappointed with that one.

]]> By: Zilla Rocca http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9426 Zilla Rocca Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:41:18 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9426 Haha Thanks Deen. However my next Beat Generation will be about how Jay-Z is STILL the best player in the NBA, eeking past Kobe and LeBron just on the strength of "American Gangster" soundtrack and his devastating "Marcy Project 2-step" crossover. Haha

Thanks Deen. However my next Beat Generation will be about how Jay-Z is STILL the best player in the NBA, eeking past Kobe and LeBron just on the strength of “American Gangster” soundtrack and his devastating “Marcy Project 2-step” crossover.

]]> By: Deen http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9398 Deen Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:45:06 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9398 You're no longer on my shit list. Great piece. You’re no longer on my shit list. Great piece.

]]> By: doctashock http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9368 doctashock Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:00:29 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9368 You've just put into words what I've had trouble figuring out how to express for a while. Especially with LWFC, which I considered to be somewhat of Common's swan song and a turning point for Dilla. I remember the first time I heard "Runnin" and immediately checkin for who the producer was. Around the same time Vibe an an article on the newly formed "Ummah" and living in the Detroit area at the time I was immediately captivated and followed Jay Dee like the new Primo up from then on (meaning I'd buy pretty much any project with his name attached to at least one track). As of right now Black Milk is definitely looking to gain that status next. You’ve just put into words what I’ve had trouble figuring out how to express for a while. Especially with LWFC, which I considered to be somewhat of Common’s swan song and a turning point for Dilla.

I remember the first time I heard “Runnin” and immediately checkin for who the producer was. Around the same time Vibe an an article on the newly formed “Ummah” and living in the Detroit area at the time I was immediately captivated and followed Jay Dee like the new Primo up from then on (meaning I’d buy pretty much any project with his name attached to at least one track). As of right now Black Milk is definitely looking to gain that status next.

]]> By: AaronM http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9358 AaronM Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:10:12 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9358 Great piece, Zilla. Damn, you hit the nail on the head with this: "Dilla beats require rappers like Frank-N-Dank, T3 and Baatin of Slum Village, Madlib, and Guilty Simpson because…they ain’t really saying nuffin’." I previewed a few songs off the Guilty Simpson album and he's really only listenable over Dilla productions. Or to a lesser extent, Dilla proteges like Waajeed and Black Milk, who seem to have inherited Jay's gift from making clumsy rappers listenable. "closed-jawed sing-song hooks"? Who could you possibly be referring to? I should add that Jay raps like most of the Detroit locals he produces. And he's effective as a rapper in the same way that you described them as being. closed-jawed sing-song hooks Great piece, Zilla. Damn, you hit the nail on the head with this:
“Dilla beats require rappers like Frank-N-Dank, T3 and Baatin of Slum Village, Madlib, and Guilty Simpson because…they ain’t really saying nuffin’.”
I previewed a few songs off the Guilty Simpson album and he’s really only listenable over Dilla productions. Or to a lesser extent, Dilla proteges like Waajeed and Black Milk, who seem to have inherited Jay’s gift from making clumsy rappers listenable.
“closed-jawed sing-song hooks”? Who could you possibly be referring to?
I should add that Jay raps like most of the Detroit locals he produces. And he’s effective as a rapper in the same way that you described them as being.
closed-jawed sing-song hooks

]]> By: padraig http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9343 padraig Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:17:13 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9343 I don't know, I have a hell of a lot of fun listening to "Soul On Ice" (Canibus, not so much). not that you're wrong about any of the other stuff - like everyone else said, fine work. this is the first piece in a long time that made me focus on Dilla's work from a different angle. I don’t know, I have a hell of a lot of fun listening to “Soul On Ice” (Canibus, not so much). not that you’re wrong about any of the other stuff – like everyone else said, fine work. this is the first piece in a long time that made me focus on Dilla’s work from a different angle.

]]> By: Zilla Rocca http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9342 Zilla Rocca Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:42:14 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9342 Thanks for the looks as usual, folks. I caught hell here in Philly for saying that *gasp!* Dilla is an outstanding producer. Thanks for the looks as usual, folks. I caught hell here in Philly for saying that *gasp!* Dilla is an outstanding producer.

]]> By: Dart_Adams http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9317 Dart_Adams Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:15:37 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/2008/03/11/the-beat-generation-the-j-dilla-effect/#comment-9317 Dilla's beats made me spend an entire 3 minutes listening to Beej N' Dem, Frank N' Dank, Que D and a bunch of other cats you couldn't make a captive audience of even if I was tied to a chair with a gun to my head. Slum Villa didn't even half spit over the beats half the time, they just let go and went along with the music..it's a beautiful thing. I still listen to "Fantastic", "Fantastic Vol. II", Que D's "Limited Edition", 5 Ela (5 Elements) "The Album That Time Forgot", assorted Frank N' Dank songs and Dilla's beat CD's whenever things seem "bleak" for me. I thought "Thelonious" was a Slum Village track that Dilla got placed on Common's album as a promo for Slum Village (Vol .II was forthcoming)...Common ain't on the track. One. Dilla’s beats made me spend an entire 3 minutes listening to Beej N’ Dem, Frank N’ Dank, Que D and a bunch of other cats you couldn’t make a captive audience of even if I was tied to a chair with a gun to my head.

Slum Villa didn’t even half spit over the beats half the time, they just let go and went along with the music..it’s a beautiful thing. I still listen to “Fantastic”, “Fantastic Vol. II”, Que D’s “Limited Edition”, 5 Ela (5 Elements) “The Album That Time Forgot”, assorted Frank N’ Dank songs and Dilla’s beat CD’s whenever things seem “bleak” for me.

I thought “Thelonious” was a Slum Village track that Dilla got placed on Common’s album as a promo for Slum Village (Vol .II was forthcoming)…Common ain’t on the track.

One.

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