Comments on: The 10 Greatest Songs That Didn’t Make The Pitchfork List Pt. 1 http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/ Even when I was wrong, I got my point across. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: The Countertop Chronicles » Gunning for the Dead http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-14827 The Countertop Chronicles » Gunning for the Dead Tue, 06 May 2008 15:12:11 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-14827 [...] sort of like this description I have several friends who refer to the Grateful Dead as the best “American band of all time.” [...] [...] sort of like this description I have several friends who refer to the Grateful Dead as the best “American band of all time.” [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1139 Anonymous Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:48:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1139 96 Tears is the Jam. And, it's by a Mexican...you can't beat that. Texas Tornadoes do a cover of it. 96 Tears is the Jam. And, it’s by a Mexican…you can’t beat that. Texas Tornadoes do a cover of it.

]]> By: Ian http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1119 Ian Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:55:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1119 "One of their main problems seems to be that their conciously choosing obscure/esoteric material"<br/><br/>Okay, admittedly, I've never worked for Pitchfork; but unless they do things radically differently than, err, everyone else I can guarantee there was little to no conscious intent in terms of the group list. I know what it looks like from the outside, but trust me, these things are always pretty much random.<br/><br/>And I haven't actually dug into Movement yet myself, Jeff, I wanted to hear it after Mark k-punk told me he liked it better than Closer... I'm heartened to hear someone else out there likes it. “One of their main problems seems to be that their conciously choosing obscure/esoteric material”

Okay, admittedly, I’ve never worked for Pitchfork; but unless they do things radically differently than, err, everyone else I can guarantee there was little to no conscious intent in terms of the group list. I know what it looks like from the outside, but trust me, these things are always pretty much random.

And I haven’t actually dug into Movement yet myself, Jeff, I wanted to hear it after Mark k-punk told me he liked it better than Closer… I’m heartened to hear someone else out there likes it.

]]> By: jim http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1115 jim Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:22:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1115 sorry geezer but ignorance is never a good defence. 96 Tears IS a classic, may have been a 1 hit wonder but none the less very influential and a garage rock classic. you need to check it. and if you haven't heard the sliver apples then you really should educate yourself, electronic music pioneers and one of the few in the 200 that i felt was a good leftfield choice and a little surprise. grateful dead are an amercian oddity with no resonance outside of the states, and yes they suck. fair call on the hendrix though sorry geezer but ignorance is never a good defence. 96 Tears IS a classic, may have been a 1 hit wonder but none the less very influential and a garage rock classic. you need to check it. and if you haven’t heard the sliver apples then you really should educate yourself, electronic music pioneers and one of the few in the 200 that i felt was a good leftfield choice and a little surprise. grateful dead are an amercian oddity with no resonance outside of the states, and yes they suck. fair call on the hendrix though

]]> By: irenie http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1110 irenie Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:30:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1110 St Stephen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! St Stephen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Sach http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1109 Sach Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:04:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1109 Great post. One of their main problems seems to be that their conciously choosing obscure/esoteric material on the basis that it predates or influenced later musical trends that they support. To the detriment of popular standards which influenced stuff they simply don't like. Additionally, I can state with authority that the French music they chose (excluding Gainsbourg) is unabashedly corny as #$%@ and it makes them come off as culture-thieves who have no idea what they're dealing in.<br/><br/>Ultimately, there were maybe 100-150 good songs in the list, some of which I'm sure their audience will discover so it's not a total waste. Great post. One of their main problems seems to be that their conciously choosing obscure/esoteric material on the basis that it predates or influenced later musical trends that they support. To the detriment of popular standards which influenced stuff they simply don’t like. Additionally, I can state with authority that the French music they chose (excluding Gainsbourg) is unabashedly corny as #$%@ and it makes them come off as culture-thieves who have no idea what they’re dealing in.

Ultimately, there were maybe 100-150 good songs in the list, some of which I’m sure their audience will discover so it’s not a total waste.

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1108 Passion of the Weiss Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:52:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1108 I've never been all that crazy about Voodoo Child, then again I'm not about to argue against it's greatness either. And Im with you on All Along the Watchtower. That song is brilliant and needed inclusion at all costs. <br/><br/>Good to hear about the Dead, Fahey is quite good too. I'm a big fan of the Dead, obviously their live stuff is quite good, and I'd agree that American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are prolly their two best studio albums. But axomoxoa is pretty great, Blues For Allah, The Grateful Dead (a live album from 71), and From the Mars Hotel among others are excellent <br/><br/>By the way, you're gonna' laugh but I just heard Movement when you posted it. Wow. That's a damn fine album. I’ve never been all that crazy about Voodoo Child, then again I’m not about to argue against it’s greatness either. And Im with you on All Along the Watchtower. That song is brilliant and needed inclusion at all costs.

Good to hear about the Dead, Fahey is quite good too. I’m a big fan of the Dead, obviously their live stuff is quite good, and I’d agree that American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead are prolly their two best studio albums. But axomoxoa is pretty great, Blues For Allah, The Grateful Dead (a live album from 71), and From the Mars Hotel among others are excellent

By the way, you’re gonna’ laugh but I just heard Movement when you posted it. Wow. That’s a damn fine album.

]]> By: Ian http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1106 Ian Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:10:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1106 Whoops, totally blanked on this. Jeff, shoot me an email and I'll get you hooked up.<br/><br/>Yeah, I agree about "Manic Depression" (what the hell dudes?), but "Voodoo Child"? That along with <br/>"All Along The Watchtower" is pretty much his best stuff. Okay, and "Purple Haze"... that one song I will agree provisionally that they probably left it off to prove a point.<br/><br/>It's a good point about the Kinks - but while I'll accept that the band is only overrated among what we might as well call the Pitchfork community (because, really...), I would point out that this list is not going to get out into the masses. So I'm not sure what the utility of putting more Kinks here would be? But I fully admit to philistinism - I only really like the Kinks best-of, I've never gotten into the album length experience.<br/><br/>I was mostly jesting about the Dead - my favourite prof is a huge fan (them and John Fahey, actually) so I imagine I might hear a bunch of their stuff soon. But so far, the snippets I've heard (mostly after the two hipster embraced albums mentioned here) haven't done much for me. What does it say that the release I'm most intrigued by is <i>Greyfolded</i>? Whoops, totally blanked on this. Jeff, shoot me an email and I’ll get you hooked up.

Yeah, I agree about “Manic Depression” (what the hell dudes?), but “Voodoo Child”? That along with
“All Along The Watchtower” is pretty much his best stuff. Okay, and “Purple Haze”… that one song I will agree provisionally that they probably left it off to prove a point.

It’s a good point about the Kinks – but while I’ll accept that the band is only overrated among what we might as well call the Pitchfork community (because, really…), I would point out that this list is not going to get out into the masses. So I’m not sure what the utility of putting more Kinks here would be? But I fully admit to philistinism – I only really like the Kinks best-of, I’ve never gotten into the album length experience.

I was mostly jesting about the Dead – my favourite prof is a huge fan (them and John Fahey, actually) so I imagine I might hear a bunch of their stuff soon. But so far, the snippets I’ve heard (mostly after the two hipster embraced albums mentioned here) haven’t done much for me. What does it say that the release I’m most intrigued by is Greyfolded?

]]> By: David http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1101 David Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:59:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1101 Shouldn't your list of top ten songs include ten songs? Maybe I'm a mental retard, but I only counted 5. Shouldn’t your list of top ten songs include ten songs? Maybe I’m a mental retard, but I only counted 5.

]]> By: Passion of the Weiss http://passionweiss.com/2006/08/23/the-10-greatest-songs-that-didnt-make-the-pitchfork-list-pt-1/#comment-1100 Passion of the Weiss Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:53:00 +0000 http://passionweiss.com/?p=159#comment-1100 Thank you very much for the praise...part 2 will be up tommorow I hope...that pt about the greatest records is entirely true....those might be the greatest singles in their minds but in my eyes there are certain figures you'll need to be top heavy about no matter who they are (Young, the kinks, etc.) <br/><br/>I've never heard that Donovan song...which album is it from. I confess Im a pretty big Donovan song. Poor guy was a great songwriter, if the press hadn't lumped him in with Dylan I think his reputation would've came out of the decade more intact. Pitchfork didn't imclude it They did include Season of the Witch which was a good choice, however they prolly should've had sunshine superman on it too. Thank you very much for the praise…part 2 will be up tommorow I hope…that pt about the greatest records is entirely true….those might be the greatest singles in their minds but in my eyes there are certain figures you’ll need to be top heavy about no matter who they are (Young, the kinks, etc.)

I’ve never heard that Donovan song…which album is it from. I confess Im a pretty big Donovan song. Poor guy was a great songwriter, if the press hadn’t lumped him in with Dylan I think his reputation would’ve came out of the decade more intact. Pitchfork didn’t imclude it They did include Season of the Witch which was a good choice, however they prolly should’ve had sunshine superman on it too.

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